Открытие-2013 : Операция "Олимп" : Общее обсуждение

[Амир Саид]

А Вы возражаете?
Или просто интересуетесь?
Так как я по национальности и убеждениям ярый еврей, то имею полное моральное право отвечать вопросом на вопрос.
Надеюсь вы не против евреев в страйкболе, в принципе ?

(Скажу Вам по большому секрету - тема армии Кении мною поднята исключительно для серии оных игр. Стало интересно отыграть регулярную армию африканской страны. Но заверяю Вас, выглядеть будем как на картинках маслом, с синими брониками, ФН ФАЛами, АК-47 и боевыми барабанами...
Ежели интересно - присоединяйтесь под наши боевые там-тамы, будете седьмым по счету воином армии Кении, ибо наши ряды множатся !
Хотя, судя по аватаре, оружие у Вас полное гуано и для армии Кении не кошерно. Хотя можно считать. что Вы подобрали его у мертвого английского спецназовца в Сомали... )

Удачи.

[saba]

Амир, зачем вы так! Вот есть несколько хороших пруфов. Если бы было так то ИМХО реакция была бы другая.
Это я понимаю тренировка!


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А тут вообще красавцы)))

[DES]

А вы организатор?
Или просто интересуетесь?

если из орг состава не выгнали, значит я один из них...

теперь по делу -- желаете моделировать вооруженные силы Кении, тогда придется выбрать конкретное подразделение и естественно период. Вы же понимаете, что в армии имеются разные подразделения с разными камуфляжами и вооружениями... После этого по фотографиям собираете снаряжение, что бы из далека быть похожим.
Этот путь проделали все команды которые будут играть на сторонах Британского содружества, США, Германии, СНГ.
Вообщем мы ждем конкретики и естественно поможем чем сможем.

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UPD: классный ролик как раз в тему

[-PILOT-]

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блин эти двое и на Украине прошлым летом были на Рапид трейдене...... - у меня даже вроде фотки есть с ними, если не удалил, по всему миру ездят...

[evil_sysadmin]

После этого по фотографиям собираете снаряжение, что бы из далека быть похожим.

Наверное, весьма издалека, т.к. у кенийцев покрой формы отличается от британского.

[Амир Саид]

тогда придется выбрать конкретное подразделение и естественно период.

2 Platoon GSU Recce Company (Ruiru)
Период 2000 - 2013.

Командир:

William A. Sayia
CBS,OGW S/DCP 1
Commandant GSU

Ссылко на фотографии:
http://go.mail.ru/search_images?q=Ge...ice Unit (GSU)

Информация о подразделении:

INSIDE THE GSU
Little is known about them.
The much that the general public knows about them is that they are the painful answer to civil disturbance and the quelling of riots by university students, unruly political mobs and communal skirmishes.
Tonnes of flak have been pummeled at them by human rights activists’ accusing them of gross human rights abuses. That notwithstanding they have also been blamed of high-handedness and excessive use of force when dealing with the general public. But perhaps their darkest hour came in 1975, when populist politician, JM Kariuki was assassinated. Media reports and witness accounts reveal that the then GSU Commandant Ben Gethi was the last person to be seen with JM alive.
This has been the public perception of the General Service Unit (GSU). Whom the press always refers to as “dreaded”. They are truly ‘terror’. The mere mention of the word GSU among many Kenyans normally sends shivers of fear and trepidation.
Just why are they feared? Is it because of their no-nonsense approach to civil disorder? Or their dispassionate adherence to their commands? This could be, but the reality is that the Kenyan and by extension the Eastern African public has never really known, let alone appreciates what the GSU is all about. A major reason why this is so is because, the Kenya government rarely comments on her activities and operations.
And today the secrets are out.
GSU is a specialized unit of the Kenya Police Service that is eternally on standby. Within the Kenya’s security establishment GSU’s real significance is a tightly kept secret. While few in Kenya know of the other side of the GSU, the certainty is that this unique outfit of the Kenya Police is actually acclaimed worldwide and listed in numerous almanacs of “Special Forces” among them the “Global Special Operations Forces Directory.” But even then very little is written or officially acknowledged about this division and her numerous exploits are virtually unknown to Kenyans.
Interestingly the GSU has been a subject that has attracted the interest of quite an array of scholars for some time now. Way back in 1992, the GSU was a theme that had intrigued security scholars in the continent. In his paper Civil-Military Relations in Post Independent Africa published in the South African Defense Review of 1992, Dr Simon Baynham fervently argued that “Kenya’s paramilitary General Service Unit (GSU),” was “built up by President Moi to break the monopoly of the regular armed services.”
This assertion came soon after Africa’s foremost scholar on military affairs Dr Samuel Decalo had contended that the GSU was “capable of defeating the entire army by itself.”
These two viewpoints by imminent scholars are indeed the pointer to what the GSU is all about. While the GSU has performed numerous proxy activities, and classified and unclassified operations both in Kenya and within the East, Central and Horn of Africa regions, it only acknowledges three of them. These are, the 1961 Zanzibar Uprising, where GSU were “for the first time deployed outside Kenya… to Zanzibar to quell civil disturbances that had claimed about 90 lives.” It took the GSU “only two days to restore normalcy.” The second operation that GSU admits is the 1963 – 1969 Secessionist Shifta War, which degenerated into a guerrilla war within Kenya’s Northern Frontier Districts. To this day the legend of the GSU is known across the NFD up to Mogadishu. The final one is the gallant role played by this regiment during the abortive 1982 Coup attempt orchestrated by renegade Kenya Air Force personnel and several activists. Though little light has been shed on the GSU and the 1982 Coup attempt, Professor Herb Howe in his paper “African Private Security” published in Conflict Trends gives a glimpse:
“Insecure rulers have parallel forces for several purposes. Firstly, they protect the ruler against domestic unrest, especially coup attempts: for example, Kenya’s GSU stopped the attempted takeover by the air force in 1982. Their well-armed presence supposedly lessens actual coup attempts.”
Investigations of GSU’s operations now reveal that unbeknown to the general public is the fact that GSU is not just a formation like any other within the Kenya Police Service. The GSU is a specific unit of commandos in the same leagues as the famed British Special Air Services (SAS), US’ Delta Force, France’s EPIGN and celebrated ultra secret Israeli commandos, the Sayeret Matkal, who rescued more than 100 Air France passengers in “Operation Thunderbolt” at Entebbe, Uganda. Put it simply, the ultimate war machines.
Though lately, the GSU has started recruiting women into its ranks, it has always been a male dominated squad, owing to the rigours undergone during training and work related demands. Of all her 13 commanders since inception none has been a woman and two of their chief commandos have risen to become Police Commissioners. The late Ben Gethi and the current chief Mathew Iteere.
It is instructive to note that immediately Major General Hussein Ali took over as Commissioner of Police, he deployed officers drawn from the GSU as Officer Commanding Police Division (OCPDs) and even into the crack criminal bursting squad of the Criminal Investigations Department (CID) the “Flying Squad” across the republic, to stem the rising tide of crime that was slowly creeping into the country. The success rate is plain for all to see today small wonder Kenya was recently upgraded by the UN and granted “B” status in the same leagues as Vienna, Geneva and Rome. Whenever crime levels soar, the police always falls back on the GSU to contain emerging criminal trends.
According to the Kenya Police Service the general objectives of the GSU are “to deal with matters pertaining to internal security across the republic; to be a reserve force to deal with special operations and civil disorder and to be an operational force that is not intended for use of a permanent static nature.”
GSU’s beginnings date back in time. The creation of the GSU was mooted during Kenya’s independence struggle. Faced with heavy casualties within the British Army ranks, the colonial government sought to minimize her losses significantly and at the same time come up with a fighting unit that would achieve results. This is how the GSU was conceived, borne and specially nurtured and trained in 1948. At that time it was referred to as the Regular Police Reserve or the Emergency Company. Its scope of operations at that time involved curtailing the rapid expansion of Elijah Masinde’s Dini Ya Musambwa in Pokot counties in the expansive Rift Valley Province. However its main challenge was to deal with the highly advanced bush and non-conventional guerrilla war tactics of the Mau Mau freedom fighters.
Come 1953 and the “Emergency Company” became the GSU, a name retained to this day. This is a highly armed; hard-nosed trained and well equipped fighting force. Another surreptitious aspect of the GSU is that it is an all rounder fighting force, capable of waging war on all fronts, namely air, land and water. However GSU’s specialty is as it was originally intended; non conventional war in extreme conditions. GSU is a fighting unit well drilled in infiltration, subterfuge, intelligence, operating behind enemy lines, martial arts, air borne surveillance, amphibious engagement and anti terrorism.
In 1957, as the Mau Mau war was approaching its zenith, the GSU became a fully fledged formation, within the police establishment. Its first commandant who is credited with making it what it is today was Superintendent of Police (SP) S.G Thompson. By 1963, Africanisation of the top portfolios began and by 1967 all company and platoon commanders were black Kenyans.
Training of GSU recruits is a strenuous and back breaking regime of some 10 months at the GSU Training School (Embakassi), and the hardy GSU Field Training School, Magadi in the Rift Valley. Very few make it through the arduous training process. Only the toughest, bravest and the best survive. Actually, the GSU is not only structured in the same lines as the British famed Special Air Services (SAS) and the Special Boat Services (SBS), it is an exact replica of the two. The other notable exception is that the GSU and especially, the elite Ruiru based “Recce Company” is a combination of both with hybrid training from Tel Aviv, London and Washington. The Recce Company from where Presidential Guards are drawn, are not only trained in Kenya, but they also undergo extensive overseas training, at UK’s SAS and SBS facilities and further get drills with Israeli’s covert Sayeret Matkal. With units spread across the republic, GSU forces are self-contained, operate in the field and are provided with their personal equipment, transportation vehicles, and top-of the range communication systems. GSU commandos are experts in all manner of weapons, demolition, sabotage, evacuation, sniping, reconnaissance, surveillance, VIP Protection, bomb disposal, Counter terrorism, night combat, desert warfare, urban warfare, infiltration, mountain warfare, amphibious engagements and survival techniques in enemy territory.
Small wonder you see them at key security installations, like State Houses, Embassies and High Commissions and guarding ‘high value assets’ like visiting dignitaries (President Barak Obama when he visited Kenya as a senator, Hillary Clinton and presidents) and the De La Rue premises.
But perhaps the best kept secret of the GSU is that it only recruits the best. Brilliant intelligence operatives, marksmen, Information Technology wizards and highly motivated individuals are the stuff that straddles the various companies within the GSU fraternity. In some instances, the GSU sometimes loans her operatives to the intelligence services, for delicate and furtive clandestine operations. According to the South African based Security watch think tank the Institute of Security Studies (ISS):
“The GSU acts as the uniformed paramilitary cousin of the security and intelligence units. The GSU handles violent crime, outbreaks of communal violence, and demonstrations. Since 2003, the GSU also has had certain counterterrorism functions, including patrolling around Kenya’s international airports. The General Service Unit (GSU) is a mobile police force that is separately organized from the rest of the Kenya Police. It is a paramilitary police force used for the apprehension of dangerous, syndicated, or armed criminals. The GSU force is equipped with radio communication devices, radar, and computers.”
While the Country Studies Program of the US Library of Congress contends that the GSU is made up of “5,000 strong soldiers” and is equipped with “12 boats, an air wing of seven light, fixed-wing aircraft and three helicopters, and eight armored cars” the reality is that the strength of the GSU and her subsequent fire power, training methods and arsenal are tightly kept secrets only known to a few within the police establishment.
Surprisingly, unlike many other “Special Forces”, in the world which have chest-thumping mottos, the GSU’s one is the best known and humble Kenya Police motto, “Utumishi Kwa Wote” (Service to all). Sadly the nature of their work forbids much to be known about them, yet their zeal and specific operations over the years are tales of heroic exploits in harsh terrains.
In the current Kenyan military incursion into Somalia against Al Shabaab (said to have links with Al Qaeda) the paras and GSU commandos are in the frontlines, with Lieutenant Colonel John Maison Nkoimo (an army paratrooper) as commander of the Southern sector.

Другия ссылко:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Service_Unit
http://www.kenyapolice.go.ke/general service unit.asp
http://www.shout-africa.com/news/ken...rces-revealed/


Надеюсь информации достаточно ?

И еще, мы не армия, не надо нам выкладывать фотографии этих обезьян из пехоты...

[Abbice]

Судя по тем фото, которые увидел:
и каков же процент G3A3 в ваших рядах? По фото у вас должно быть 90% ими вооружено.

[Амир Саид]

Ага, и 99% негров...

[Abbice]

переодеть команду в гуталин быстрее и дешевле, чем привода закупить
Вопрос же был больше по существу, ибо сказать "мы моделируем" гораздо проще, чем действительно моделировать.

[DES]

Информацию про 2 Platoon не нашел ну и ладно...
а вообще это GSU правильное полицейское подразделение.
Я за такую команду!!!

[Амир Саид]

Вопрос же был больше по существу, ибо сказать "мы моделируем" гораздо проще, чем действительно моделировать.

А Вы , мил-человек, будете на игре?
Или просто интересуетесь случаем?

[Abbice]

я-то буду, чего не могу сказать об остальной части команды =(

[Амир Саид]

Я за такую команду!!!

Отлично.
Но непонятно - броники с кацками обязательны или можно частично ? Как на фото?
Мы все-таки не обезьяны из пехоты, GSU Recce Company - рейнджеры по специализации.

Небольшой ролик о General Service Unit (GSU):



Это. конечно, скорее наши провинциальные коллеги, но общая картина вполне очевидна, и по экипировке, и по вооружению. И по поведению...
Какие славные добрые парни, могли и пристрелить этих вонючих бабуинов, а они отнеслись гуманно к пособникам международного терроризма.

[Ява]

Со стороны это все отдаем ТАКИ ТОЛСТЕННЕЙШИМ троллингом,что я прямо даже и не знаю что за это сказать.Но столько пруфов по Кенийским ВС и ,вроде как, серьезный разговор на эту тему заставил меня испытывать воистинну когнитивный диссонанс...

[Амир Саид]

Я не совсем понял смысл первого предложения, но по второму предложению могу сказать, что самый большой диссонанс случится, ежели Вы попадете к нам в плен...

[Койон]

Питання до організаторів: ФУТБОЛ планується???

[BarmaLINI]

Питання до організаторів: ФУТБОЛ планується???

если ктото возьмется за его организацию

[Дым]

если ктото возьмется за его организацию

Сначала бы график Открытия увидеть, нужно окно часа на два.

[DES]

Амир Саид, а почему полицию? Я например не могу себе представить, чтобы Франция отправила в Афганистан своих жандармов или Италия карабинеров... Может все таки выбрать подразделение которое бывает в миротворческих операциях или горячих точках, а не бегает с палками за воришками.

[Койон]

Сначала бы график Открытия увидеть, нужно окно часа на два.

Приєднуюсь.